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  Trip Denmuth presentation.
Posted by: jameson245 - 07-22-2023, 05:11 PM - Forum: Stun Gun - Replies (6)

Trip Demuth was charged with making a presentation to the Boulder police showing them the weaknesses in their case against the Ramseys. This is one way we can tell what evidence the police had, what they didn't have.


This thread will have quotes about the stun gun that are in the report.

Quotes 

WAS THERE A STUN GUN:
   No one can eliminate the possibility & there is no better explanation for the marks as of yet.

Four pathologists say they are consistant with stun gun marks.
    Arapahoe County Coroner had a stun gun case, and he said these marks are consistant.  
    Larimer County Coroner had a stun gun case on a baby - he said the stun gun marks are consistant.
    Dr. Meyer has said they are consistant.
    A CBI agent who did a study on stun gun marks says they are consistant.
    And Dr. Michael Graham, professor of pathology at St. Louis University School of medicine and an expert on pattern injuries, says they are consistant.

Dr. Spitz is the only one who has said they were not caused by a stun gun.  He believes they were caused by something the victim was laying on after the attack.  "

snip  then... "FBI equated Dr. Spitz with Cyril Wecht - no credibility."  
"We know she was laying on the garrote handle.  Compare the mark left by the garrote handle."

The distance between the marks is consistant with some stun guns.  This is within a coupke millimeters.  We must consider design tolerances & the elasticity of the skin as the gun is applied." 

"The Air Tazer electrodes are consistant in size and shape with the marks on the back  It is dangerous to simply dismiss this possibility - a jury will not."

(My note - I corrected spelling errors on this page.)

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  Basement bathroom
Posted by: jameson245 - 07-22-2023, 04:48 PM - Forum: Rooms - Replies (2)

Trip Demuth was charged with making a presentation to the Boulder police showing them the weaknesses in their case against the Ramseys. This is one way we can tell what evidence the police had, what they didn't have.


This thread will have quotes about the basement bathroom that are in the report.

The window in that room was of interest - I will start with that.  they ae clearly talking about the outside of thaat window and we have photos of that available to us.

"The dust and dirt has been brushed aside on the windowsill.  There are fingerprints appearing in the dust.
Neither the fingerprints nor the brushed off areas have pine needles or leaves on top of them. Scattered pine needles can be seen scattered about in the adjoining areas.  The window was found unlocked."

My COMMENTS - - It would seem someone tried to look through the window at the least, maybe tried to get in but to the best of my knowledge, that window was painted shut and would not open.   This window was veery close to where an unidentified baseball bat was found.

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  From Trip Demuth's presentation
Posted by: jameson245 - 07-22-2023, 03:00 PM - Forum: Broken window/ Spider web - No Replies

" The window well shows evidence of recent disturbance.
   Compare the lack of leaves in the center windowsill to the adjoining windowsills.   There are scuffmarks in the dust in front of the center window.  Scuffmarks do not have any pineneedles or leaves on them like those that are found everywhere else in the well."

"Crawling through the window on July 1...  similar pattern in the dirt on windowsill because there is a 3/4 metal molding that keeps the leg off the sill."


"The center window was found unlocked by Fleet White at app. 6:30 am.  He thinks it was closed."

(my comment - - - Fleet is not sure.  That is important. )

"The police find the window wide open.  THIS IS THE WAY THE POLICE FIND IT."     ( The crime scene photo of the window was shown here during the presentation.)   

"There is a scuffmark running down the wall under the window.   We don't know if John Ramsey put that mark there.  Until we do, it is evidence of an intruder."

"There is a suitcase centered underneath this window."

"There are keaves & "debris" found on the floor under this window.  
Patsy and Linda Hoffman cleaned up all the glass in that area.
Fleet White found a piece of glass on the glass under the window.
There is a piece of glass found on the suitcase that is under the window.
There are pieces of glass in the window well."

"THIS WINDOW WAS UNLOCKED AND THERE IS A TRAIL OF PHYSICAL EVIDENCE THAT LEADS TO THE BODY."

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  Trip Demuth's presentation on the spider webs
Posted by: jameson245 - 07-22-2023, 01:42 PM - Forum: Broken window/ Spider web - Replies (1)

Trip Demuth was charged with making a presentation to the Boulder police showing them the weaknesses in their case against the Ramseys.  This is one way we can tell what evidence the police had, what they didn't have.

This thread will have quotes about the spider web that are in the report. 

" The cobweb is evidence that the grate had been moved.
      Only a few strands found.
      Sliding the north end over doesn't break the strands of the web."

my note - lifting the grate from the front and resting it against the house, as I did when I went in and out, would not have broken the webs, either.

"All the other cobwebs would break if north end slid over.
The gardiner says he did not do it.
John Ramsey entered here no later than August."

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  From Trip Demuth's presentation
Posted by: jameson245 - 07-22-2023, 01:20 PM - Forum: Footprints in the snow - No Replies

Trip Demuth was charged with making a presentation to the Boulder police showing them the weaknesses in their case against the Ramseys.  This is one way we can tell what evidence the police had, what they didn't have.

This thread will have quotes about the footprints that are in the report. 

Page 2 - 
"Officer Weiss writes that he observed footprints in the frost at the front door & observed no footprints in the area of the other exterior doors."

my note - He was not the first police officer at the house, not told to go to the house until 6:35 am on the 26th.  By there there had been a lot of activity at the house.

"The experts at NOAA say there would not have been snow on the north and west sidewalks.
Photos taken before 9am on 12/26/1996 show no snow on those sidewalks.
    It was 10 degrees out that morning.
Those photos show that an intruder could have entered the house without leaving footprints."

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  Open doors and windows
Posted by: jameson245 - 07-22-2023, 01:03 PM - Forum: The House at 755 15th Street, Boulder, CO - Replies (1)

Trip Demuth was charged with making a presentation to the Boulder police showing them the weaknesses in their case against the Ramseys.  This is one way we can tell what evidence the police had, what they didn't have.

This thread will have quotes about the unlocked doors and windows that are in the report. 

"There were at least seven doors or windows that the police found open."

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  From Trip Demuth's presentation
Posted by: jameson245 - 07-22-2023, 12:35 PM - Forum: Handwriting - No Replies

Trip Demuth was charged with making a presentation to the Boulder police showing them the weaknesses in their case against the Ramseys.  This is one way we can tell what evidence the police had, what they didn't have.

This thread will have quotes about the handwriting that are in the report.  

Page 1.
The handwriting comparisons are not evidence against the Ramseys.      
    The comparison excludes John as the author.
         Patsy would have to be a complicitor in any sexual assault.

Chet's inconclusive opinion weighs in their (Ramsey) favor. 
    Especially with their expert's opinion that she probably did not write the note.

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  The bible
Posted by: jameson245 - 07-20-2023, 03:28 PM - Forum: odds and ends - Replies (1)

    In the crime scene video, a bible is shown on John's desk in his third floor office.  The image is too blurry to see what page it is on but I will try to find a good image.

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  December 22nd, mall
Posted by: jameson245 - 07-17-2023, 04:11 PM - Forum: December 13th - 20th - No Replies

From the TimeLinePosted by jameson on Jul-17-03

December 22nd: There was a little show at the Southwest Plaza, pageant winners strutted their stuff in the mall. JonBenét was there. It was sponsored by America's Royal Miss and was carried on the local TV station.No list of people who attended that event.

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  The exemplars described
Posted by: jameson245 - 06-21-2022, 12:20 PM - Forum: Handwriting - Replies (13)

Exemplar #1

dated 12/27/1996 on exemplar, and 12/28/1996 on cover sheet

It needs to be noted that this sample was given just ONE or TWO days after JonBenet's body was carried up from the basement and laid on the family's living room floor. Guilty or not, this woman was going through a lot.

AND, intending to be as honest as possible, I intend to point out a thing or two that I honestly thought COULD have suggested Patsy wrote the note that was never publicly discussed before. I remember wondering why those little details never came out. (And no, I am not suggesting Patsy wrote the note, there's no way her writing was a match. I am just giving an honest review of what I see).

There are only 4 pages here, one the cover page and the other a typed out copy of the "London Letter" which Patsy was clearly asked to copy. The cover letter is dated 12/28, but Patsy was asked to sign and date one of the pages and she dated it 12/27/1996. All spelling, abbreviations and punctuation was copied from the typed sheet - any differences will be described here.

On the first page, there are seventeen words listed on the left side of the page. After each word, there were spaces where Patsy was asked to write those words. She was asked to write "countermeasures" only two times. She was asked to write 100% six times. Not 100 percent, 100%. Most words she asked to write three or four times.

I want to note a few things right off the bat. Will do them as individual posts to make commenting easier.

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