Retired FBI John Douglas
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2004-06-29: Webbsleuths Forum (http://www.webbsleuths.com)
"Mindhunter, the last show" (Mindhunter Show. KFI, AM 640)



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06-29-04, 02:39 PM (EST)

"Mindhunter, the last show"
LAST EDITED ON 06-29-04 AT 02:41 PM (EST)

I've edited my transcript to remove the segments on the BTK strangler and a small segment on internet scams. The following has also been edited to eliminate some 'uh,'s 'ers,' etc. Most have been left in since it helps show how a person thinks...I did not, however, edit for grammatical errors. This was a lot of typing, rewinding the tape, etc., so I dun want to hear about misplaced commas or apostrophes...bug off.

Eric: We're going to talk about the JonBenet Ramsey murder investigation and this is a story that really seems like everybody that's followed it even a little bit has a pretty clear opinion of what they think happened. As evidenced by the nasty emails we got over the last week when we even mentioned that we would be talking about this. And uh, before we even get started with the story and John, what your involvement in all this was, I think it's important to mention what, or how you became involved in this case to begin with because one of the things we had in a couple of letters from people was, 'How dare you let John go on the air and talk about this case. He's just a shill for the Ramseys, they paid him off, he's working for them, of course he's going to find that somebody else did it, and so, let's kind of clear the air and explain how you were involved in the case first and then we'll (unintelligible) story.

John: If they paid me off, I wouldn't be doing this uh, this radio(laughs) show if they paid me off and that's what's really interesting over the years people have said that he was paid off, he received monies. What's kind of interesting is when I was an FBI agent I was on a salary too. Does that mean when I go out on cases, that the FBI is paying me money so therefore I'm going to slant my analysis so that the police are going to be really thrilled with my analysis and the FBI's thrilled with my analysis. People that know me, been around me for years, I cause major problems, major headaches when I was in the FBI because I just wouldn't go along with the drumbeat. And I did the same thing, we talked about the case going years back into the early 1980s when I was involved in the Atlanta Child Killing case and I was totally against every else's opinion that the killer was a white male perpetrating those series of cases, crimes down in Atlanta. I said it would be a black offender. Wayne Williams was of course, you know was black.

I'll tell you right off the bat how much I got because I would testify in this case as well to a Grand Jury. I received just under, just under three thousand dollars total on this case starting back in 1997. And uhm, once I realized, in my opinion, that the family was not involved in the case, I did everything pro bono. I do pro bono work today for victims of violent crime. Sometimes going into a case, just like this case, I thought for sure, because of the stuff that I was reading in the papers, just like everyone else when you're standing in Walmart you see The Globe, the National Enquirer and all this crap you know and you think, oh my gosh, these people killed a child; they must have staged the crime scene. So I just happened to be out...


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John: I happened to be, this is like January 6, I happened to be out in Provo, Utah with Chief of Police, Greg Cooper who used to work with me and for me back at the FBI Academy. He's a real solid guy and when I retired, he actually left the Bureau he was so close to me he didn't even want to stay there and he got a great opportunity being police chief out in Provo.

And I got a call from a former police officer, Ellis Armistead, who contacted me and said that the attorneys, one of which is Hal Haddon, who we know is involved with...


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John: I was brought in by the police. Finally the Ramsey attorneys said, why don't you help, first of all we'll do the interview of the family and I just want to talk to John because of the DNA, supposedly DNA evidence, and through the interviews, in a nutshell, I could tell, from his responses, he was a broken down man. He was a broken down man. There was word that came out that John Ramsey read my book, Mindhunter , and in Mindhunter, I talk about a victim, Shari Faye Smith. So right away, all these sleuths out there. Shari Faye, JonBenet. You know, and that there was a connection. He learned from my book like it was a book on how to commit crimes. He never even read my book. I was in his bedroom. He never read it. He read my book after I got involved in the case because he wanted to know who I was and what I'd done, what I've done in the past. He knew nothing about me or what I'd done in previous cases.


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