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  The indictments
Posted by: jameson245 - 01-28-2017, 08:55 PM - Forum: Grand Jury Indictments - Replies (3)

       
Both John and Patsy received the same ruling from the grand jury.

The Grand Jury did vote to indict John and Patsy on certain charges - far short of murder or conspiracy to commit murder. 

DA Alex Hunter was obligated to bring charges ONLY if he believed he could get a conviction.  Knowing a LOT more than the Grand Jurors had been told about this case, he (with a board of advisors) made the decision NOT to charge either John or Patsy with any crime.



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  The urine stained panties (and the dry bed)
Posted by: jameson245 - 01-28-2017, 08:35 PM - Forum: DNA found in panties - Replies (6)

   

The panties are described in the autopsy:
 " Beneath the long underwear are white panties with printed rose buds and the words "Wednesday" on the elastic waistband. The underwear is urine stained and in the inner aspect of the crotch are several red areas of staining measuring up to 0.5 inch in maximum dimension."


Please note, there is NO evidence she wet the bed.  This is the crime scene photo of her bed.  A urine stain in the hall in the basement indicated she wet herself there, just outside the windowless room where her body was found.



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  The Hi-Tec prints in the basement
Posted by: jameson245 - 01-28-2017, 08:28 PM - Forum: Hi-Tec footwear - Replies (6)

       

Next to where the body was found, there was a clear imprint from a Hi-Tec boot.  Police were never able to  link that brand to the Ramsey family and, in fact, searched for the boots when looking at other suspects.

Someone may still suspect they know who killed JonBenét and it is important they understand there was a LOT of evidence pointing away from the family, pointing TO an intruder.  They may need the nudge to make the call to solve this mystery at last.

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  Long John information
Posted by: jameson245 - 01-28-2017, 08:19 PM - Forum: DNA - Touch DNA on long johns - Replies (10)

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Touch DNA on these long johns influenced DA Mary Lacy when she publicly apologized to John Ramsey for the Hell his family had been put through - because in her mind the DNA evidence - found mixed with JonBenét's blood in her panties and on these long johns - pointed to the intruder who did not innocently leave his DNA on those articles of clothing.

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  The head injury - graphic image
Posted by: jameson245 - 01-28-2017, 08:12 PM - Forum: Head Injury - Replies (11)

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From the autopsy: "The scalp is covered by long blonde hair which is fixed in two ponytails, one on top of the head secured by a cloth hair tie and blue elastic band, and one in the lower back of the head secured by a blue elastic band. No scalp trauma is identified. The external auditory canals are patent and free of blood.The eyes are green and the pupils equally dilated. The sclerae are white. The nostrils are both patent and contain a small amount of tan mucous material."

and after the scalp is opened,
"On removal of the skull cap there is found to be a thin film of subdural hemorrhage measuring approximately 7-8 cc over the surface of the right cerebral hemisphere and extending to the base of the cerebral hemisphere.The 1450 gm brain has a normal overall architecture. Mild narrowing of the sulci and flattening of the gyri are seen. No inflammation is identified.There is a thin film of subarachnoid hemorrhage overlying the entire right cerebral hemisphere. On the right cerebral hemisphere underlying the previously mentioned linear skull fracture is an extensive linear area of purple contusion extending from the right frontal area, posteriorly along the lateral aspect of the parietal region and into the occipital area. This area of contusion measures 8 inches in length with a width of up to 1.75 inches. At the tip of the right temporal lobe is a one-quarter by one-quarter inch similar appearing purple contusion. Only very minimal contusion is present at the tip of the left temporal lobe. This area of contusion measures only one-half inch in maximum dimension."

The blow to her head would have been a fatal injury.  The fact that the coroner (and everyone else who saw her body) had no idea there was such an injury indicates there was no obvious swelling, bruising.  In fact the coroner had no idea she had the head injury until he exposed the skull during the autopsy.  The written autopsy indicates very little bleeding and THAT tells us she was hit in the head VERY CLOSE to the time she died.  Otherwise there would have been a lot more bleeding into the skull, bruising, possible bleeding from her eyes, nose, ears and mouth.

Lou Smit and others believe the garrote was cutting off the flow of blood to the head and that limited the amount of bleeding from the head injury.

THAT should make the BORG  (Bent on Ramsey Guilt) who are holding the theory that the head blow came a half to full hour before the garrote was put on her as staging or to "finish her off" think twice.   That theory just does not fit the physical evidence.

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  The Haddon Letter
Posted by: jameson245 - 01-28-2017, 07:37 PM - Forum: Ramsey cooperation - Replies (5)

The Haddon Letter

April 23rd, 1997 Ramsey Family Statement
MEDIA ADVISORY

Our clients, John and Patsy Ramsey, offered specifically to meet with the and Boulder police
in a formal interview on December 27, 1996 and again on January 18, 1997. Since then, we
have made numerous attempts to schedule interviews the Boulder Police Department. Yesterday
at 4:00 p.m. the Boulder Police Department canceled the separate interviews scheduled for today
at 9:30 a.m. and 1:30 p.m.

We have forwarded the following letter today to the Boulder County
District Attorney Alex Hunter. Hal Haddon Patrick Burke April 23, 1997

HAND DELIVERY
Alexander M. Hunter
Boulder County District Attorney
Boulder County Justice Center
1777 Sixth Street Boulder, CO 80306

Re: John and Patsy Ramsey

Dear Mr. Hunter: By this letter, we express our profound dismay at yesterday's actions
by the leadership of the Boulder Police Department. After representatives of the Boulder
Police with Department and your office requested and agreed to a format for separate
interviews of John Patsy Ramsey beginning at 9:30 a.m. today, we were advised at
approximately 4:00 p.m. yesterday afternoon that the interviews were canceled because
Boulder Police Department leadership no longer agreed to the format of the interviews
-- despite previous statements to the contrary.

When we received this information from your office yesterday, we offered to discuss
any additional matters which might facilitate the interviews but no one from the police
department was willing to even have that discussion.

In view of the bizarre position of the police department, we then offered to make Mr.
and Mrs. Ramsey available this morning for separate interviews by Detective Lou Smit
and any member of the District Attorney's office who wished to attend. This offer was also declined.

This action is incomprehensible in light of the previous history of this issue.

The Police Department, directly and through a campaign of leaks and smears, has portrayed the
Ramseys as unwilling to grant police interviews or assist the investigation. Although we know this
innuendo to be false, we have avoided criticizing the police because we believed that it would only
fuel a media war which would be counterproductive to the overarching goal -- finding and prosecuting
the killer of JonBenét Ramsey.

Yesterday's actions make further silence untenable.

HISTORY OF DISCUSSIONS WITH THE RAMSEYS REGARDING TODAY'S INTERVIEWS

On Friday, April 11, 1997, John and Patsy Ramsey, with their attorneys, met with Peter Hofstrom of your
office and Tom Wickman of the Boulder Police Department. This meeting was held at Mr. Hofstrom's request.

The Ramseys were told at that meeting that they had been treated unfairly in the past and that authorities
wanted to put the investigation on a new track. They were told that "we need your help to solve this crime."
The Ramseys were asked to give interviews and continue their previous cooperation.

No conditions were placed on the manner in which the interviews would be conducted and, in fact, we were
invited to propose any conditions we considered reasonable. At that meeting, John Ramsey immediately said
that he would gladly meet with your representatives if it would help the effort to find his daughter's killer.

The day after that meeting, Patsy Ramsey voluntarily provided a fourth handwriting sample. The Ramseys also
agreed to let authorities search their house again without a warrant; agreed to destructive testing of materials
located at their home; agreed to identify Patsy Ramsey's prior writings; and agreed to make themselves available
for separate interviews on Wednesday, April 23, 1997, beginning at 9:30 a.m.

The Ramseys agreed to answer any questions put to them by any investigator chosen by your office or the
Police Department. We requested that these interviews be of two hour durations, respectively, but we were
certainly flexible on time and your agencies voiced no objection to that time frame.

All the arrangements for these interviews had been made and agreed upon. John and Patsy were anxious to
participate, based on Mr. Hofstrom's representations that such interviews would assist in apprehending the killer
of their daughter.

We cannot describe their anguish and disappointment when we were forced to advise them that the police had
reneged on the very interviews you earnestly requested on April 11.

PREVIOUS INTERVIEWS AND OFFERS

This episode is the latest in an inexplicable series of events which appear to be senseless efforts to intimidate
and smear the Ramseys without any valid investigative purpose. We can document that both John and Patsy
Ramsey were extensively interviewed by Boulder police, including detectives, on December 26, 1996, the day
JonBenét's body was discovered. John Ramsey answered more police questions the next day. On doctors' directions,
Patsy Ramsey was not interrogated on December 27.

What occurred next was the most insensitive and outrageous action in this case, at least to date: Boulder police
refused to release JonBenét's body for burial unless the Ramseys agreed to come to the police station and submit
to a hostile interrogation. We had to threaten legal action to obtain her release for burial.

This was the first in a series of insensitive and incomprehensible actions by the Boulder Police Department leadership
to destroy every sincere attempt to have an open and honest relationship of trust with the Boulder Police Department.

After John and Patsy returned from the funeral, we offered to make them available for a joint interview on January 18, 1997,
at 10:00 a.m. We told the police that Patsy Ramsey was too ill to attend the entire session but that John Ramsey would
answer all questions put to him. The police declined this offer and stated in writing that such an interview would not "be helpful"
because "the time for interviewing John and Patsy as witnesses who could provide critical information that would be helpful
in the initial stages of our investigation has passed."

The police countered with an offer that the Ramseys come to the police station at 6 p.m. on a Friday night and subject
themselves to inquisition for as long as "the nature and quality of the information" warranted. That absurd suggestion
was rejected, especially since the police did not believe that the Ramseys possessed any "critical information."

Since that time, law enforcement authorities from several agencies have launched a cowardly smear campaign against John and Patsy,
fueled by leaks and smears attributable only to "sources." We will no longer endure these tactics in silence. It is beyond
comprehension that law enforcement authorities prefer to leak information rather than interrogate the persons who they
characterize as "suspects" in this investigation.

It is apparent that the leadership of the Boulder Police Department lacks the objectivity and judgment necessary to find
the killer of JonBenét Ramsey. Mr. Hofstrom told John and Patsy that he wanted their help to solve this crime. They
remain willing to meet with Mr. Smit, Mr. Ainsworth or any other members of your office to that end.

Sincerely,
Harold A. Haddon
Patrick Burke

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  The small hidden room
Posted by: jameson245 - 01-28-2017, 10:28 AM - Forum: Disproving Myths - Replies (8)

Man: Then another story appeared - The room where JonBenet was found was so hidden, whoever murdered her knew the house - even the mayor of Boulder said so.

Mayor: By all reports, there were no visible signs of forced entry. The body was found in a place
where people are saying, someone had to know the house.

Man: Television hammered the message home.

American Journal - "But the biggest clue to this mystery is this maze of a house itself, this house with a hidden room where JonBenét's body was found.

Linda Hoffman - Housekeeper - I didn't even know that room was there. I cleaned that house, I
cleaned that basement many times and didn't even know that room was there.

American Journal Questioner (To Linda Hoffman) It tells you something about the killer, doesn't it?

Linda Hoffman - That's right.

Questioner - What does it tell you?

Linda Hoffman - It tells me somebody had to know that house.

!!!!!!!!!!

But the room was not hidden in any way. From the foot of the stairs, you can see the door to the room straight ahead of you. Linda had gone into the room many times to get out Christmas trees and other junk. But when the police asked her about the room, they didn't WANT her to say she knew about the room - so they didn't make it clear where the body was found.   (I think they suggested you had to go THROUGH the boiler room to get to the small room where she was found - - like it was very small and hidden.  JMO)

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  Footprints in the snow
Posted by: jameson245 - 01-28-2017, 10:26 AM - Forum: Disproving Myths - Replies (4)

Reporter Charlie Brennan said he knew from the beginning the parents were the only real suspects.

Charlie Brennan: I certainly have, I had that sense at that time, I had that sense at that time, yes. I had the belief that the police were under a strong suspicion from the very beginning that it had to be the parents.

Man: A local television reporter who also covered the story on the 27th drew the same conclusion.

Julie Hayden, TV Reporter: Early on there, definitely before the five o'clock newscast, we were
beginning to get the sense that the police were not hunting Boulder for some mad kidnapper – That the police were looking more inside the family.

Man: From now on, a clear pattern was to emerge in the news coverage. While police chief Tom
Koby said little, others in law enforcement continually leaked information. Often it was misleading information intended to implicate the Ramseys. The pattern began that day. A story was leaked that suggested ONLY a family member could have murdered JonBenét.

C Brennan: I had a trusted law enforcement source tell me the first officers there noted that it was rather strange, they thought, NO footprints in the snow outside and this is a source that has been infallible in my experience.


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We now have the crime scene photos and know the walkways were clear.  We know police notes were written hours, days after the event and mistakes were made.  And we know from depositions that John Fernie walked around the house before the police went looking for tracks - if no one else's were there, his should have been.  This seems like a clear case of the police leading the media on a BORG path.

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  legal lying in interrogations
Posted by: jameson245 - 01-28-2017, 10:21 AM - Forum: Disproving Myths - No Replies

My best information is that the book Mind Hunter was NOT in the Ramsey house - that Mike Kane was lying when he told John it was - and that was perfectly legal. It is a police tactic to get a response.  (Also a way to get misinformation to the public in a way it would be taken as "fact".  Remember, all kinds of things were being leaked back then.)

From the 1998 interview:

MIKE KANE: Okay. What about "Mind Hunter", John Douglas's book was there, was in the house, had you purchased that?

JOHN RAMSEY: No. It was there in '96? Interesting.

MIKE KANE: Why's that interesting?

JOHN RAMSEY: I never never heard of John Douglas or that book before.

That interview took place before John realized just what lengths the cops would go to to get information they might twist their way -- after all, now it was ON THE RECORD that the book was in the house -- misinformation, but still on the record.

By the 2000 interview, John was wiser and when told there were fibers on JonBenet's genitals from John's sweater, he was NOT so polite -- he called Kane a liar.

It is interesting to see how things changed over time.  In 1996, many of us thought police didn't lie.

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  The Hoffman/Miller FAX
Posted by: jameson245 - 01-28-2017, 10:15 AM - Forum: Handwriting - Replies (5)

Darnay Hoffman is the attorney who sued the Ramseys on behalf of Chris Wolf.  He said that his experts would testify that Patsy Ramsey and no one else wrote the ransom note.  The case was tossed out by Federal Judge Julie Carnes but the depositions from that lawsuit gavve us a LOT of good information on a number of subjects.

RIP, Darnay.  Now you know.


I shared this FAX a long time ago with the forum - and will again here. This FAX went from Darnay Hoffman to another attorney - Tom Miller. Tom Miller was willing to say that as a handwriting expert he had done what the FBI, CBI and US Secret service had been unable to do --- link Patsy to the note.  

While Miller was willing to say Patsy wrote the note, he was never taken seriously by anyone I know related to this investigation, and that included Darnay.

This FAX is a document I think most Ramsey addicts will find very interesting.  THIS is the kind of documents followers of the case rarely get to see but only one of many.

The text:

Dear Tom,
Could you please fax me a copy of your c.v.? My fax number is (212) 496-****. I need to begin
preparing your court affidavit and a recital of your qualifications as a handwriting expert is essential.

You might be interested to know that I spoke with handwriting expert Paul A. Osborn who is, as you
probably already know, the grandson of Albert S. and son of Albert D. Osborn. He refuses to touch the
Ramsey case with a ten foot pole. His reasons: he knows the handwriting experts who gave their reports
to the defense team and to CBI --- four in all. According to Osborn these experts are supposedly top in
their field (he won't give me their names) with impeccable ethical credentials. Their verdict: the
similarities between Patsy and the ransom note writers handwriting is at the very lowest end of the
spectrum, i.e., there is little or no basis for a match.

I don't have to tell you what is going to happen when I present your report and affidavit to a district
court judge. When Alex Hunter and Hal Haddon are finished with you, you will either look like Henry
Lee or Dennis Fung. Obviously this is going to be a "defining moment" for both of us. My former law
professor Barry Scheck just took a wicked hit in the Nanny murder trial, so it can happen to the best of
us.

Trust me (as they say in Hollywood) when I tell you that if you're doing this solely for the money, then
you're nuts. This is "a career move." You better be in this because you "like the action." Because you're
going to see plenty of it when this report hits the courts.

Best, Darnay Hoffman
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