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  responding to thetalko.com article
Posted by: jameson245 - 07-30-2018, 04:33 PM - Forum: Answering BORG questions - Replies (16)

16 Things The Ramsey's Don't Want You To Know About JonBenet's Murder

In this article, we’ll take you to the fifteen eeriest things the Ramsey’s don’t want you to know about this age old homicide.

The murder of six-year-old blonde beauty queen JonBenet Ramsey has been the fixation of macabre fascination since the case broke in 1996. You can’t write stuff like this, the day after Christmas in a mansion in Boulder, Colorado there lay little JonBenet Ramsey bludgeoned and strangled under a white sheet in her basement. The case was a media frenzy from the day it broke, however, nearly 21 years later the case remains cold with no signs of heating up. The police had several suspects over the years, including a creepy Santa Clause and a teacher named John Mark Carr who confessed he was there when JonBenet died. However salacious these claims may be, the police never found evidence that could link any suspects definitively to the little girl’s untimely death. However, John, Patsy and Burke Ramsey remained under a cloud of suspicion for the alleged involvement in their daughter and sister’s murder. In this article, we’ll take you to the fifteen eeriest things the Ramsey’s don’t want you to know about this age old homicide.


####################  My comments

I will forgive the author not taking the time to correctly print "JonBenét", but she should have been able to correctly spell Santa Claus and John Mark KARR.

I am going to respond to each point  - one at a time.  Eerie?  Not sure that is a proper description of the "things" - - but the Ramseys have never tried to hide any facts related to this murder.  They always hoped for the facts to be known in order to SOLVE this mystery.

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  Doc Miller link to Pete Peterson
Posted by: jameson245 - 07-29-2018, 11:11 PM - Forum: Judith Phillips - Replies (1)

Thomas C. MILLER and R.W. Peterson, Plaintiffs-Appellants,
v.
James R. COLLIER;  Detective William Phillips;  and the City
and County of Denver, Defendants-Appellees.
No. 92CA2030.

Colorado Court of Appeals, Div. I.
June 16, 1994.

Theodore A. Borrillo, Doris A. Waters, Denver, for
plaintiffs-appellants.

Daniel E. Muse, City Atty., James C. Thomas, Asst. City Atty.,
Denver, for defendants-appellees.

David B. Kopel, Golden, Robert Dowlut, Washington, DC, for
amicus curiae The Firearms Civ. Rights Legal Defense Fund.

Opinion by Judge KAPELKE.
In this action against defendants, the City and County of Denver and two of its police officials, to recover damages under 42 U.S.C. section 1983 (1988) and for relief in the nature of
certiorari review and mandamus under C.R.C.P. 106, plaintiffs, Thomas C. Miller and R.W. Peterson, appeal from the judgment of the trial court dismissing their complaint with prejudice.  We reverse and remand for further proceedings.

In their complaint, plaintiffs allege that they are private investigators who need to carry concealed weapons in order to protect themselves and others during the course of their work. They further allege that they have applied unsuccessfully to the Denver Police Department and Chief of Police for permits to carry such weapons.
In addition, they allege that Miller applied for a permit in July 1991 and that defendants denied his application in June 1992, on the ground that he had no “compelling need” to carry a concealed weapon.  Defendants informed Miller that he could reapply, but when he requested an application he was advised that the Denver Police Department was no longer providing applications for concealed weapons permits.
Peterson, who had held a concealed weapons permit for approximately eighteen years, applied for a renewal of his permit in March 1992.  Defendants allegedly denied his application without an explanation.

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  Court dates
Posted by: jameson245 - 07-23-2018, 02:18 PM - Forum: John Ramsey sues CBS - No Replies

Ramsey, John v CBS Corporation , et al.

Register of Actions

Case No. 17-013731-CZ

02/04/2019
Case Evaluation - General Civil

03/20/2019
Settlement Conference (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Groner, David A.)


08/02/2018
Reset by Court to 03/20/2019

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  from interviews
Posted by: jameson245 - 07-21-2018, 08:09 PM - Forum: Ramsey holiday plans 1996 - Replies (1)

1998 Interview with Patsy
2 TRIP DeMUTH: Do you remember what
3 carrier?
4 PATSY RAMSEY: No. I think we
5 called Disney at a number you call, and they do
6 some sort of package thing, they put it
7 together, so I don't know, Delta, United or --
8 TRIP DeMUTH: Okay.

1998 interview with JR
12 MIKE KANE: Who made those arrangements?
13 JOHN RAMSEY: Patsy made the reservations?
14 MIKE KANE: Was it through the travel agent?
15 JOHN RAMSEY: The travel agent. Actually
16 I think I remember calling Walt Disney directly. I
17 think I might have gotten the number out of a
18 magazine or something. Because I think I remember
19 joining the Disney or somebody like that directly.
~snip~
24 MIKE KANE: So you would fly back in the
25 day before, fly out, I think you said TWA?
0238
1 JOHN RAMSEY: Right.
2 MIKE KANE: And you're leaving on the boat
3 that day or did you fly down and then you would
4 leave the next day?
5 JOHN RAMSEY: No, I think we were doing
6 this boom, boom, boom. Then we were going to be on
7 the boat that night.
8 MIKE KANE: And how long a trip was that
9 going to be?
10 JOHN RAMSEY: It was maybe four days. It
11 was over through New Year's Eve. I don't know if
12 we were came back New Year's day or the next day,
13 but it was a four-day trip.



Interview with Patsy 1997 regarding the Charlevoix trip
ST: And was everybody on this same page about going to Charlevoix as far as uh, willing and wanting to go. There was no dissention in the ranks that, I don’t want to go or she doesn’t want to go. Everybody was looking forward to this trip?
PR: Well, I mean, we were. I wasn’t real crazy about going cause I just thought it was cramming a lot of stuff in there, you know, I told John I didn’t really want to go. I’d rather, cause, Christmas, going to Charlevoix, then going to, it just seemed like a lot, you know, but then we decided as a family to go and, you know, been looking forward to it.


Interview with JR 1998 about Charlevoix
2 JOHN RAMSEY: Well the plan was to leave
3 the morning of the 26th. I had an airplane at the
4 time that was on charter through a charter company
5 run by Mike Archuleta, who is also a friend;
6 became a friend. Mike was going to fly us that
7 morning of the 26th from Jeffco to Minneapolis. We
8 were going to get into Minneapolis before 11 and
9 my older kids were going to arrive from Atlanta.
10 From Atlanta to Minneapolis we were going to pick
11 them up and then go on to Charlevoix.
12 And we did it that way because Charlevoix was a
13 difficult place to get to with airlines. And we
14 were flying from Jeffco to Charlevoix, you fly
15 literally almost fly over Minneapolis. So that
16 would be real easy for us to stop in Minneapolis
17 and pick them up. And they had really inexpensive
18 tickets to get there on the airlines. So that was
19 the plan.
20 They we were going to stay there for I think it
21 was till Friday. I forget what day the 26th was.
22 (INAUDIBLE) but we were going to stay for a couple
23 days and come back to Boulder around Friday. Then
24 I think the next morning on Saturday, we were
25 going to leave for this Big Red Boat trip with
0089
1 just JonBenet, Burke and Patsy and me. And that
2 was a package deal. We had tickets on TWA and that
3 was all kind of pretty pre-laid out for us.

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  a short interview with Forman and Clemente
Posted by: jameson245 - 07-11-2018, 02:31 PM - Forum: Burke sues CBS for 750 million - Replies (2)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6rkPoCHgl4

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  A Michael Piehl Film -- BORG
Posted by: jameson245 - 07-11-2018, 02:15 PM - Forum: BORG theories and BORG people of note - No Replies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl5Ll3sL...e=youtu.be

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  spiral staircase
Posted by: jameson245 - 07-11-2018, 02:14 PM - Forum: odds and ends - No Replies

A youtube clip of Bill Kurtis walking down the stairs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtzCszmb...e=youtu.be

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  spiral staircase
Posted by: jameson245 - 07-11-2018, 02:12 PM - Forum: odds and ends - No Replies

A youtube clip of Bill Kurtis walking down the stairs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtzCszmb...e=youtu.be

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  Less technical posts
Posted by: jameson245 - 07-07-2018, 02:29 PM - Forum: DNA - more technical discussions - Replies (2)

DNA in JonBenet Ramsey as evidence of an intruder and the power of the Daubert Side of the Forensics
[Image: empty.gif] by redpill on Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:08 pm

Mon Jun 18, 2018

Daubert Standard Rises and RDI Fringe defeated.

I once warned my apprentice SD that as he grew stronger in RDI fringe, his equal in Daubert would rise. Spinwalker I assumed. Wrongly.
closer I said.  

in JonBenet Ramsey murder mystery they found DNA on JonBenet Ramsey

I told SD that my mentor taught me everything I know about the Forensics, even the nature of the Daubert standard.

What is the forensic significance of this DNA?

obviously the RDI of forumsforjustice.org  James Kolar reddit websleuth etc have posted that the DNA have no significance and is incidental.

they clearly have no understanding of scientific objectivity.

what it comes to ascertaining this DNA

this is a statement of the Daubert Standard

Quote:
Daubert v. Merrell Dow Pharmaceuticals, which held in 1993 that Rule 702 of the Federal Rules of Evidence did not incorporate the Frye "general acceptance" test as a basis for assessing the admissibility of scientific expert testimony, but that the rule incorporated a flexible reliability standard instead;


Quote:
   Rule 702. Testimony by Experts
   If scientific, technical, or other specialized knowledge will assist the trier of fact to understand the evidence or to determine a fact in issue, a witness qualified as an expert by knowledge, skill, experience, training, or education, may testify thereto in the form of an opinion or otherwise, if (1) the testimony is based upon sufficient facts or data, (2) the testimony is the product of reliable principles and methods, and (3) the witness has applied the principles and methods reliably to the facts of the case.


Mary Lacy in her exoneration letter is explicit that DNA forensic experts were consulted.

Detective James Kolar is not a DNA expert, and his claims they find 6 profiles and if you have to accept one you have to accept all, does not come from an expert witness in DNA science.



Quote:
Host Tricia Griffith is a veteran radio disc jockey and owner of Websleuths.com and owner of Forums for Justice.org.

She is not a DNA expert


When you read RDI posters on forumsforjustice websleuth etc, they are neither DNA experts, nor are they citing DNA experts who have been consulted and presented all the case facts.

A DNA expert who has such relevant expertise has come forward - Lawrence Kobilinsky


"... the significance of the DNA found on Jonbenet Ramsey is evidence an



intruder "committed that sexual assault and murdered JonBenet".



ref Jennifer Kovaleski (September 6, 2016). "New details revealed about JonBenet Ramsey's murder in A&E documentary". Retrieved September 30, 2016.



these are his credentials

Quote:
Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky is a renowned forensic scientist and an expert in DNA analysis. He is the Chairman of the Science Department at the John Jay


Education

Post-Doc    -   Sloan Kettering Institute for Research
                      (Complement and Effector Biology Laboratory)
1977 PhD  -  The Graduate Center of the City University of New York
                    (Biology)
1971  MA    -   City College of New York (Biology)
1969  BS    -   City College of New York (Biology)
Bio

My research interests focus on developing sensitive methods of human identification using polymerase chain reaction methodology.  My lab has developed methods to conduct RFLP of VNTRs, and PCR of  Short Tandam Repeats (STRs).  We have been working on high sensitivity methods to study low copy number DNA (less than 100 picograms) extracted from biological evidence.  Developing a better scientific approach to crime scene investigation is also an interest. Counseling defense attorneys and prosecutors about DNA technology is underway.  We are also helping laboratories in other countries develop the skills and knowledge to conduct reliable DNA analysis. I have worked with lab personnel from  China, Mexico, Dominican Republic, Brazil, and others to improve their systems of criminal justice, especially where forensic science needs improvement.
Download C.V.

ref https://www.jjay.cuny.edu/faculty/lawrence-kobilinsky



DNA evidence is evidence that meets the Daubert Standard.



Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky is an expert witness in DNA science under Daubert.



the conclusion of DNA expert Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky  on the scientific forensic value of DNA evidence in the JonBenet Ramsey is that an intruder committed this crime.



Jameson is right.



this conclusion contradicts the conclusions the frauds over at forumsforjustice have stated, frauds like cynic Cherokee delmar england ukguy etc



this is a statement of what justice is





Brent Turvey outlines the code of ethics





Quote:Brent Turvey wrote:
Maintain an attitude of professionalism and integrity.
Conduct all research in a generally accepted scientific manner.
Assign appropriate credit for the ideas of others that are used.
Treat all information (not in the public domain) from a client or agency in a confidential manner, unless specific permission to disseminate information is obtained.
Maintain an attitude of independence and impartiality in order to ensure an unbiased analysis and interpretation of the evidence.
Strive to avoid preconceived ideas or biases regarding potential suspects or offenders from influencing a final profile or crime analysis when appropriate.
Render opinions and conclusions strictly in accordance with the evidence in the case.
Not exaggerate, embellish, or otherwise misrepresent qualifications when testifying, or at any other time, in any form.
Testify in an honest, straightforward manner and refuse to extend their opinion beyond their field of competence, phrasing testimony in a manner intended to avoid misinterpretation of their opinion.
Not use a profile or crime analysis (the inference of Offender or Crime Scene Characteristics) for the purposes of suggesting the guilt or innocence of a particular individual for a particular crime.
Make efforts to inform the court of the nature and implications of pertinent evidence if reasonably assured that this information will not be disclosed in court.
Maintain the quality and standards of the professional community by reporting unethical conduct to the appropriate authorities or professional organizations. (Turvey 1999: 722)



this is the question I have asked earlier,



earlier I asked,



imagine





Richard Dusak & Edwin F. Alford, Jr.



[u]Richard Dusak[/u]





Quote:Richard Dusak wrote:
  Dusak Findings. "Richard Dusick (sic) of the U.S. Secret Service concluded that there was "no evidence to indicate that Patsy Ramsey executed any of the questioned material appearing on the Ransom Note." (SMF P 200; PSMF P 200.)" (Carnes 2003:26, note 14).



[u]Edwin F. Alford, Jr.[/u]



Quote:

Edwin F. Alford, Jr.

"Examination of the questioned handwriting and comparison with the handwriting specimens submitted has failed to provide a basis for identifying Patricia Ramsey as the writer of the letter.



since Patsy Ramsey has been eliminated with an ASTM score of 8 or 9



you could read their forensics report, or they were called to testify. What would their testimony consist in?



this is the question NO RDI have ever asked


imagine you could read forensics report on the DNA, or you could listen him testify as to the scientific value of that said evidence.



what would that report contain? what would it say?


using this textbook, CRIME RECONSTRUCTION by Brent Turvey and Jerry Chisum, explain using crime scene reconstruction science,



how the DNA found on Jonbenet, in combination with ligature tape, fiber hair, her medical injuries, would result in an actual DNA expert



conclusion

Quote:
the conclusion of DNA expert Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky  on the scientific forensic value of DNA evidence in the JonBenet Ramsey is that an intruder committed this crime.



in other words, given actual DNA scientific experts have provided expert witness testimony under Daubert as to the actual value of that DNA evidence, how would you explain in terms of actual scientific concepts and scientific methodology and scientific techniques what would lead an actual DNA expert to conclude the DNA is evidence an intruder committed the crime.



describe the contents of a forensic report by an actual trace evidence examiner, and DNA experts, forensic handwriting and forensic linguistics, as to how they arrived at their conclusions. in this case, DNA is evidence an intruder committed this crime.



I promise you not only has no RDI on forusmforjustice websleuth etc ever asked this question, they have no idea how to go about researching it.



when you read RDI ignorance on the  JonBenet Ramsey



their conclusion the DNA doesn't mean anything, which contradicts the conclusions of actual DNA experts,


i promise you they've never consulted (here Redpill listed sever books on forensic investigations) no RDI poster at forusmforjackasses websmear ever consulted any scientifc forensic textbook on the relevant scientific forensic evidence

Imagine you listen to Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky in court explain his reasoning. unfortunately you will never hear James Kolar in court, just as you won't Cina Wrong and Gideon Nutstein, as they are not expert witnesses under Daubert.

cynic is found of calling out IDI nutjobs like Jameson. when on websleuth i was a mere padawan he told me Jameson is an IDI nutjob and her real name sue bonnett.

but when you sit down and work though the Daubert standard and actual genuine forensic science, one thing stands out.

Jameson is right.

RDI are the anti-science nutjobs.

What would his scientific reasoning be?

I told SD the Daubert Side of the Forensics is a pathway to many IDI truths the RDI would consider to be unnatural.

would it be possible to learn this power?

NOT from an RDI nutjob.

if you only knew the power of the Daubert Side of the Forensics

all the posters at forumsforjustice cherokee ukguy cynic are all scientifically ignorant. they are not correctly informing the public as to the true science behind forensics.

the DNA found on Jonbenet should be understood both in the context of a sexual assault and also the presence of other unsourced trace evidence and shoe print.




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  the chosen few
Posted by: jameson245 - 07-06-2018, 06:23 PM - Forum: To view the full forum - No Replies

Many registered and never posted.  Many registered and seldom signed in.  I deleted almost everyone and don't mind that the site is used mostly for fact-checking on those threads that are still public.

Seems those posters remaining prefer the drama found on facebook.  I am not there and find I don't miss the daily opportunity to hit my head on the BORGbrick walls found there.

Life takes funny turns.  I had to be away from the daily Ramsey feud in order to take care of elderly relatives.  I no longer have that responsibility and so find I have time to go back to the Ramsey case, to the Webbsleuths forum where the facts matter and drama does not.  I hope to be here more, to have more time to push LE to solve this.

To the few who read here and care about justice, I hope to see you post more.   It's been a long time and hopefully some with abilities beyond my own will join forces with us to move the case forward.

jameson

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