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  But they already knew the DNA didn't match
Posted by: jameson245 - 04-19-2019, 01:08 PM - Forum: Handwriting - No Replies

Authorities denied recent media reports that handwriting samples did not match that of family members. Colorado Bureau of Investigation officials have not returned handwriting, blood and hair sample results from the Ramsey family and close friends to the Boulder Police Department.

"We have numerous examinations going on right now with this case," said Pete Mang, an inspector with the CBI. "There have been no final conclusions." 

1/9/1997 news story

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  unnamed - scared
Posted by: jameson245 - 04-19-2019, 12:41 PM - Forum: Neighbors - Replies (1)

Other residents said they have had difficulty sleeping and have placed chairs in front of their doors to prevent intruders from entering their homes at night.

"I just don't know what happened, and that's what's so scary," said one neighbor who declined to give her name. "There just isn't much crime here, which is why it's so terrifying to think that somebody really entered that house and killed her. And until they figure out what happened, I don't think I'll ever feel safe here again."

12/29/1996 news story

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  responding to email 3/29/2019
Posted by: jameson245 - 03-29-2019, 01:20 PM - Forum: Duck Tape - No Replies

The tape was found on her body by John - he took it off.  It was handled by Fleet White then left in the basement.  It was taken to an FBI lab who determined that the tape was made by Shurtape and after that Boulder sent Steve Thomas and Ron Gosage to the Shurtape factory in Hickory.  There they were told it was manufactured in November of 1996, they could tell because every time the fabric or adhesive is changed it has to be recorded and the combination of the crime tape was a very short run.  It was made in November.  Police knew all that before Easter of 1997.

Since the taped matched nothing in the Ramsey house and there was no evidence that the FAMILY bought it - - Thomas and his friends saw no reason to follow that lead any further.  I disagree and hope to push the issue a bit.  I think police may need to follow the lead to completion now if only to avoid embarrassment later if this ever went to trial they wouldn't want to have to admit they just... didn't.

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  tap dancing class
Posted by: jameson245 - 03-21-2019, 09:52 PM - Forum: odds and ends - No Replies

Tap Dancing Lessons (Boulder Rec Center)

"Started in fall that year, once a week at the Boulder Rec Center taught by Joseph Beaucage, six or eight other kids, they were preparing for a community dance recital in March [1997] Patsy thinks." (snip) "I mean Pinky Barber had her daughter in it, and Gwen Habley was in it" [Patsy 6/98 BPD Interviews]

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  jameson's back
Posted by: jameson245 - 03-21-2019, 09:12 AM - Forum: jameson's back - Replies (4)


This photo was taken in Boulder, Colorado in the winter of 1998. I was there working on a David Mills documentary.

I like the photo because there are 15 stories connected to that trip - and the photo reminds me of every one.

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Posted by: jameson245 - 03-17-2019, 09:08 AM - Forum: Answering BORG questions - No Replies

Userid wrote that there was no evidence JonBenet had been strangled twice.  I would argue with her on that - - it is unquestioned by the experts that she was choked with the cord low on the neck before the cord was moved to it's final position - - - the chain and cross she wore was dragged across her throat leaving a large abrasion.

When I studied the marks, I believe I found a third line as well. That would have been the first attempt.   The killer was vicious.

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  For UKGuy
Posted by: jameson245 - 03-17-2019, 08:47 AM - Forum: Answering BORG questions - Replies (1)

UKGuy wrote:

The curious aspect is Coroner Meyer's verbatim autopsy remarks

[i]Search Warrant 12/29/96. Excerpt[/i]

Quote:Detective Arndt told Your Affiant that she observed Dr. Meyer examine the vaginal area of the victim and heard him state that the victim had received an injury constant with [i]digital penetration of her vagina. Detective Arndt told Your Affiant that Dr. Meyer told her that it was his opinion that the victim had been subjected to sexual contact.[/i]

Which suggests a sexual assault using a finger and [b]not[/b] an injury caused by some unknown instrument, sometimes termed as [i]Instrumental Assault[/i] a bit like the [i]Blunt Force Trauma[/i] phraseology.

Yet nearly everyone assumes a piece of wooden splinter was found inside JonBenet, so how does that square with a Digital Sexual Assault?


My response -   When the man broke the paintbrush so he could use part of it in his garrote, a splinter, quite small, stuck to his finger. The digital assault put the splinter in his victim.

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  118 - What could it be?
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-21-2019, 09:03 PM - Forum: 118 thousand dollar ransom - Replies (2)

OK, we have all discussed how 118 could be a reference to John's 1995 bonus - paid out in February 1996 - - it was $118,117.50.

How about this?  In Indonesia, if you need an ambulance, the number to dial is 118.  Just mentioning it because the ransom note mentioned foreign faction - - maybe our guy had spent some time in Indonesia.

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  John didn't turn on the light first
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-18-2019, 10:56 AM - Forum: Disproving Myths - No Replies

THE MYTH - John Ramsey told Fleet White that he had found JonBenet before he turned on the light in the windowless room.

This information is lifted from the decision of Federal Judge Julie Carnes - - and the information is from Fleet White's deposition.

Upon finding nothing unusual in the closet,
the men proceeded to the wine cellar room. Mr. Ramsey entered the room first, turned on the
light and, upon discovery of JonBenet's dead body, he exclaimed "Oh my God, my baby."
(White Dep. at 162-63, 193-93.)

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  Judith Phillips - PDI
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-15-2019, 08:12 PM - Forum: THEORIES - No Replies

  Intenet poster Mame interviewed Judith Phillips - here is part of that transcript.

Mame: when did the police first speak with you?
JP: I think in April, not sure,…… in April……
Mame: and did you ask to be spoken to? Or did they take it upon themselves to…
JP: they called me first and asked if it would be okay if they could interview me down at police headquarters. And I said, sure. Mame: did they want to know more about what type of person Patsy was?
JP: well they asked, they interviewed me 3 times. The first time was short and Steve Thomas and Gosage was there and there was a woman whose name I don't recall, those were the 3 that interviewed me. It was taped and I didn't have a problem with that at all. They asked odd questions like , do you know this person as related to JR? They were naming off at least a half of dozen female names and, no I've never heard of that person before and no, I never knew that person before. And they would ask….
Mame: Not related as relatives, but the connection in terms of his life, who they were?
JP: yeah, women involved with John. They were hinting at an affair. I said, Why did you ask me the names of these women? They said, well, it's believed that JR had had quite a few affairs, not only in Atlanta but also here in Boulder. Do you know of anything? I knew, really none. (Laughs). John has such a devious quality about himself there was no way that he would let anybody know about his trysts whether they were real or not. But I found it interesting the line of, the police line of questions and how it went. Then they asked me if I knew about Patsy, if I saw her anger, if I saw her lose her temper and if I knew if she had ever had any relationships here in Boulder, you know questions like, personality type questions.
Mame: did she?
JP: not that I know of, but I have been told by a friend by a friend of mine who is much more deeply involved in this story than I am, that she met with a woman in Denver that had a health club that had played racquet ball with a, um, ah, I'm trying to think he was. Not an account…..
Mame: an investment person?
JP: An investment person. Yeah, and according to her friend that she knows very well, this investment person who is a man had said that he had a relationship with PR that night.
Mame: of the murder?
JP: yeah, that they had come home from the party at the Whites and Patsy had left the home, and had attended a party where they had a fling going.
Mame: do you believe that?
JP: (couldn't understand)
Mame: How do you know?
JP: How do you know? It's not that I don't disbelieve it, it's like…. You know???
Mame: that's the story that Jann Scott sort of threw out, was that was the line of thinking that they had up with that this boyfriend had come back. JP: yeah, well, I'm trying to investigate that. I have to do it very carefully.
Mame: I hope you'll keep us informed.
JP: I will. I have to be very careful, because I'm sure that she under any circumstances, that this man was apparently a father of the children where JonBenet and Burke attended school.
Mame: your school?
JP: their school. At that time they switched from the public school, to I .. Can't remember the name of it. They were a special satellite school.
mame: a magnet school.
JP: A magnet school. Patsy left, Susan Stine left and Roxy left and took their kids with them.
Mame: a magnet school
JP: a magnet school.
Mame: so it was apparently a father,
JP: yeah, who he did not, … he was married, he did not want anyone to know even if, this is true, can you imagine that he is willing to keep his secret, secret?
Mame: yeah, I can't imagine with all the scrutiny that, … but, you don't know.
JP: uh, huh.
Mame: that's fascinating.
JP: yes, it is fascinating.
Mame: But did you hear that there are good sources that you hear this from are sound enough that it's worth pursuing, that it's worth investigating… (couldn't understand)
JP: there is not one leaf that I would leave unturned in this particular case. I try not to have an opinion of something until I've investigated it further. So, I believe that this is something worth following up on. But I want to be real careful, because if this is true, this man is keeping an incredible secret. So, that's .. so I went from, and I think at the point where the more information that I obtained, especially about the ransom note when Tom and I and our relationship started. He sat down with me at length and showed me what his analysis, what his handwriting analysis that he did for Darnay Hoffman.
Mame: And it's like.. (couldn't understand) terminally (couldn't understand) finance, (couldn't understand) he was called upon.
JP: right, right.
Mame: to do an analysis
JP: (at same time) a handwriting analysis for Darnay Hoffman years ago. And he was one of the few handwriting analyzers that was willing to come out very strongly about that Patsy wrote the ransom note. He did not soft step, didn't fudge at all, which I think a lot of them have a tendency to do, but he really strongly believes, and still to this day believes that Patsy was the author of the ransom note. So you know we would have many conversations about it and that sort of was like the icing on the cake for me.
Mame: um, hum.. and when was that in your timeline approximately?
JP: let's see, probably, when the early spring of 98.
Mame: OK, so about a year and half, a year and a quarter after.
JP: yeah,
Mame: OK. Let me mention what I never knew, I sort of picked this up on Dateline NBC that you did. Your personal opinion is there could have been some incest going on.
JP: yeah, the reason why I believe that is, a couple of things. First of all, this ahhh, to see JonBenet prance around in her very sexually revealing outfits and just the way that she presented herself was shocking for me. I felt that there was something more there than that the eye.. it was just ..
Mame: But at the time you saw her prancing you didn't feel it? You didn't (couldn't understand) the activity, but later…. When you look back or…
JP: no, no, the first time I saw those films on television. I didn't see them while she was alive but..
Mame: but you didn't attend the pagents..
JP: right.
Mame: you had no way of knowing.
JP: right, so the first time I actually saw the footage, was right after her death, right after her murder, and I was shocked. I was absolutely shocked. I thought I do ,, this is not the little girl that I knew at all. It just was shocking.
Mame: sort of like a secret life.
JP: yeah, like another person. Actually another person that I didn't even know. The way that she pranced around and smiled and so sexual, adult sexual moves.
Mame: they really were sexual
JP: yeah
Mame: what else does (couldn't understand) daughter, but that is not a typical
JP: yeah, it's not Shirley Temple on the good ship lollipop, this is something very different, very different and there was a red flag, an intuitive flag that was, I, I just thought this is.. There's something wrong here. That was the first thing. Then as I have tried to put the pieces together that why I felt that Patsy, the person Patsy, the mother Patsy could have ever murdered her child, which I believe that she did. What would compel a mother to do this? And the only theory that makes any sense to me, is the theory that she found John sexually abusing JonBenet that night. That to me makes the only sense.
Mame: because you can't picture her then, bedwetting or…..
JP: no, no, no, no, no. The only thing that makes any sense of her behavior, was she quote" lost it".
Mame: and you think she was losing it towards John, not JonBenet.
JP: I think Patsy suspected it for some time. I think it may have started when JonBenet's hair was dyed blonde because that summer Patsy came home with a big ring on her finger and she was different and so was JonBenet. JonBenet's physical appearance.

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