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  Richard Eikelenboom states DNA 10,000 times more likely to be hispanic
Posted by: Summer Dawn - 03-09-2017, 04:24 PM - Forum: What is in the news - staying up to date - Replies (3)

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/09/10/col...rder-case/


JonBenét Ramsey 20 years later: New theories on DNA, family squabbles and sadistic strangers hit the airwaves





KIRK MITCHELL | kmitchell@denverpost.com | 


First-graders at High Peaks Elementary School in Boulder and competitors at child beauty pageants knew her. But on Christmas Day 1996, JonBenét Ramsey was not a household name.
That changed quickly, however, and by New Year’s Day 1997, the little girl’s first name and face were more recognizable in the U.S. and around the world than Miss America 1996 Shawntell Smith of Oklahoma or Miss Universe 1996 Alicia Machado of Venezuala.[Image: jonbenet-ramsey-017.jpg?w=620]
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JonBenét quickly became the [url=http://blogs.denverpost.com/coldcases/2014/08/06/jonbenet-ramsey-24-today/9070/]only beauty queen people talked about
 after the 6-year-old was brutally murdered in her family’s basement on Dec. 26, 1996. Her beaming face had been plastered on newspapers, magazines and tabloids. National TV shows featured video of the girl during pageants.
“There is no question this case has caught worldwide attention and there continues to be speculation as to who committed this crime,” Boulder police Chief Greg Testa said in a Sept. 1 videotaped statement as the 20th anniversary of JonBenét’s murder approaches.
Boulder police have been widely criticized for their handling of the case. But Testa said the reason he wouldn’t do interviews about it was to maintain the investigation’s integrity. He pointed out that the department processed 1,500 pieces of evidence, took 200 DNA samples, interviewed more than 1,000 people in eight states and investigated more than 20,000 tips, letters and e-mails.
Despite Testa’s defense of his department, a new round of anniversary-driven reports and TV shows are dredging up old stories of Boulder police incompetence and in some cases shedding new light on police missteps. The reports point out that detectives alternately accused JonBenét’s 9-year-old brother and her mother, Patsy, for her death, while hiding the fact that a drop of blood from the likely killer was found on her pajamas.
Some of the new media revelations could be groundbreaking — if the facts are confirmed.
DNA testing
For example, A & E’s two-hour documentary that appeared on Mondaydisclosed that new DNA testing that can identify a person’s racial background reveals that the killer is most likely of Hispanic heritage. Such evidence excludes the Ramsey family and could help detectives hone their investigation to only Hispanic suspects.

But those DNA tests were conducted by Richard Eikelenboom, who was allegedly discredited last month during a Denver trial after a prosecutor got him to admit he was self-trained to conduct DNA profiles, “that he had no direct DNA extraction or analysis experience,” and operates a lab that has not been accredited.
Besides doing DNA forensic work in JonBenét’s case, Eikelenboom has testified in high-profile cases for Timothy Masters, Casey Anthony and David Camm. All three have been acquitted of murder charges. But Eikelenboom said he is accredited in Holland and the U.S. by the American Society of Crime Lab Directors.
Two weeks ago, Eikelenboom entered the unidentified DNA profile into national DNA databases and determined that the donor of the blood found on JonBenét’s panties is 10,000 times more likely to be Hispanic than Caucasian or black. He said Boulder police should enter just the Y-chromosome DNA profile of the donor in the FBI’s Combined DNA Index System to possibly get a so-called familial match.
Boulder police have not indicated whether they are focusing on Hispanic suspects based on the results of DNA tests.
Family fight?
The A & E documentary also solidifies what has already been reported about the telling sequence of JonBenet’s injuries. Boulder detectives have long suggested JonBenét’s death was the tragic result of a domestic incident. One theory presented by Boulder police was that Patsy struck her daughter after the girl wet her parent’s bed late Christmas night and that the garroting of the child’s neck was part of an elaborate cover up.
The documentary quotes a Colorado Springs forensic scientist and a team of Great Britain as saying that half-moon marks on JonBenét’s neck found during the autopsy indicate she was still alive when the chord was placed around her neck, which would show it couldn’t have been part of a post-death cover-up.
Another theory advanced by Boulder police was that her brother Burke cracked her over the head during an argument fueled by jealousy.
Doctor Phil has promised to reveal “shocking, never-before heard” detailsabout the “nation’s most talked about cold case” in his season-opening show on Monday. It’s the first installment of a three-part series based on the first-ever media interviews with Burke Ramsey.

Other TV projects also focus on the Ramsey family as the perpetrators including an in-depth package by CBS News, which reunited some of the case’s original investigators including retired FBI profiler Jim Clemente, world-renowned forensic scientist Dr. Henry Lee and James Kolar, the former chief investigator for the Boulder District Attorney’s Office.

The six-part series,  quotes investigators expressing doubt that someone would use a stun gun on JonBenét. The intruder theory says a stun gun caused the marks left on the girl’s neck. A trailer for the series quotes an expert saying that he’d never seen anything like the ransom note left at the house.

Sexual sadist intruder
But many law enforcement experts, including some former Boulder police officers, now believe the killer was not a relative, but a sexual sadist who broke into the home.
In the “Dateline NBC” special, “Who Killed JonBenét?” , correspondent Josh Mankiewicz interviews Bob Whitson, a retired Boulder detective sergeant who was in the Ramsey home the day JonBenét’s body was found.
“The behavior at the scene does not match up” with the Ramseys, Whitson tells Dateline. “It matches up with a sexually sadistic person and a psychopath.”

But despite the myriad theories and potential suspects, Boulder police remain committed to finding the killer.
“Publications and movies offer many theories about how this crime occurred and who is responsible. Facts have been surmised and often distorted, which has led to many conclusions,” Testa said. “We remain focused on this investigation and finding justice for JonBenét.”

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  Q&A
Posted by: jameson245 - 03-07-2017, 12:16 PM - Forum: Answering BORG questions - Replies (17)

The forum might prove helpful in educating those who are not-quite-BORG and seeking information.  I know in some places there are questions put out - - and answered - - but they are on BORG forums and the other side of the story is not being told there.  So please, if so inclined, copy some questions and answer them here.

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  Posts that might be found in MAD Magazine
Posted by: jameson245 - 03-07-2017, 11:08 AM - Forum: Absolutely insane posts - mostly by BORG - Replies (14)

[Image: quote_icon.png] Originally Posted by Curiousmind48 [Image: viewpost-right.png]

Has anyone considered the possibility that jonbenet tried to kill herself that night, that she was so distraught that she stood on a chair and tied a rope around her own neck? I know she was only six, but even young children can be pushed to a certain limit and crack. Could patsy have found her daughter almost dead from strangulation and because that would blow the illusion of a perfect family, further staging might have taken place. Or the rope was so tight, it would not come off and it was clear she was in great distress and dying. Could someone have finished the job as a way to end her suffering? Of course, that doesn't explain the head injury. I dont believe an intruder was involved, but will say, the simplest explanation is often the right one.

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  krugman interview
Posted by: jameson245 - 03-04-2017, 06:01 PM - Forum: The Autopsy - Replies (1)

Burden of Proof - Monday, December 29, 1997

Krugman interviewed on Burden of Proof

Also former FBI profiler Van Zandt

December 29, 1997

This transcript just covers the Ramsey case section

COSSACK: Doctor, you are a leading child abuse expert. The police brought to you the autopsy report of JonBenet Ramsey for your opinion. You concluded that this was not perhaps a case of sex abuse, but perhaps a case of child abuse, why?
KRUGMAN: Well first Roger child abuse to me includes physical abuse, sexual abuse, and a variety of other forms of abuse and neglect. What I said at the time was that I couldn't say with certainty that this was a sexual abuse case. It clearly was a physical abuse case. And it was a physical abuse case because of the massive brain injury, the skull fracture, and because of the strangulation.
COSSACK: Why were you not able to say with certainty about a sexual abuse case, Doctor?
KRUGMAN: Well for one to know with certainty that sexual abuse occurred that night I think one would need some forensic evidence that I'm not sure is available. I haven't seen any certainly to make me feel that way. There are a lot of people around the country who have from afar or even from looking at the autopsy said they are certain she was sexually abused. The problem is that children who are sexually abused may or may not have any physical findings. The reason I wouldn't say with certainty that she was or wasn't is because at least 40% of children have absolutely no physical findings and they are being sexually abused; whereas children who have some physical findings around the genital area, may have been physically abused or may have been sexually abused. And I saw nothing to let me know with certainty that sexual abuse was here in this particular case that particular night.
COSSACK: Doctor you made a statement which almost made it sound though that you believe that the sexual abuse was a coverup to perhaps hide the amount of physical abuse. Do you have a feel on that area?
KRUGMAN: In my view that's certainly a possibility.
COSSACK: Well why would you suggest that it is a coverup? I mean, what is there to suggest sexual abuse being a coverup to perhaps hide physical abuse?
KRUGMAN: Well let's again be careful of our terms. There was a lesion an abrasion on the hymen. That may have been part of sexual abuse. That may have been part of physical abuse. That may have been part of a coverup. I just don't see enough things in the autopsy to say with certainty what happened. And I think the main problem we have with this case and in this country is that we are using the wrong system that is the criminal justice system to try to deal retrospectively with a problem like child abuse, which is an enormous public health problem and has killed over 2,000 other children anonymously since JonBenet died.
COSSACK: Doctor what I am and I agree with you, of course, but what I am particularly interested in is your use of the word coverup here as some sort of way of perhaps hiding something. And I'm trying to get you to explain that to me.
KRUGMAN: Well I'm not sure I can explain it to you Roger other than to say that when you see an injury someplace on a child there can be a lot of different reasons why that injury is there. And if you are involved in an investigation or you are trying to work out diagnostic possibilities you need to think of them all and then you need to have other information that helps you sort out those possibilities.
COSSACK: Alright. Clint, working for the FBI, and we have heard the doctor explain leading abuse expert explain that perhaps there were some things that maybe we use word coverup maybe not. Where does that lead you? I mean, in terms of looking possible suspects, where does that lead you?
CLINT VAN ZANDT: Well you know one of the things you have to look at Roger is we have to differentiate between a pedophile and someone who would abduct a child for ransom two different breeds of cat. We don't have a cross-fertilization, psychologically, between these two different types of individuals. We also look at, from an investigative standpoint, usually it is 12 to one. When we look at the number of children that are killed around JonBenet's age, older, younger, 12 to one it is usually someone it is usually a parent or somebody within the home; somebody who has access to the home, as opposed on an unknown offender. Now, statistics don't make you guilty of anything but those have to play in and have to be part of this. I think perhaps what the doctor may be suggesting and obviously he speaks for himself is we saw a coverup as far as I'm concerned, with the note. I don't think that note was written by someone who actually expected to kidnap JonBenet, carry her away, and get $118,000 ransom. We see other things that were done to the victim the night of the crime, which, to me, suggests a coverup which to me suggests staging, someone trying to make a crime look like something it's not. So perhaps the staging that I see behaviorally might go along with the coverup that he is speaking about medically.
COSSACK: If I understand you correctly, what you are suggesting is that perhaps this child was murdered before that note was written that perhaps that event occurred, and then somebody the murderer, perhaps wrote and planned this elaborate hoax to throw people off. Is that what you are suggesting?
VAN ZANDT: That's what I'm suggesting Roger. The idea that an unknown offender, at least two, perhaps three people would break into the house that night knowing what they were going to do but not have written that note in advance then would be able to find a pad of paper, start to write the note, tear it up, write another 3 page note, take the time to do that. In the note, one reference there is a dozen references we can talk about. One speaks that if the authorities are notified, the victim will be beheaded. That to me suggests that the victim was already dead that the killer already knew the type of ligature damage that was done to the victim and that translated into the note suggesting the victim might be beheaded.
COSSACK: Does that suggest an accidental death?
VAN ZANDT: My opinion Roger is that there was an accidental death that took place on the victim, in the house; and that there was a subsequent cover-up, physical damage, and other things that took place injuries to the victim. So we had an initial accidental injury. We had the death of a victim, and then we had to coverup by subject or subjects whoever were involved in this.
COSSACK: Alright. does that suggest and I want to eliminate, for the purposes of this conversation, the Ramseys? Does it suggest someone who the Ramseys knew? Does it suggest someone within the family?
VAN ZANDT: It suggests someone who knew the house, who knew the family, who knew enough about Mr. Ramsey to make some very interesting remarks in the note. It suggests that the killers either came from that house or had access to that house on a fairly common basis, as opposed to an unknown offender. We can't rule that out because we just don't know. But if we look at statistics, statistically the chances are greater from a behavioral standpoint that the killers either came from that house or had access to the house, as opposed to this unknown offender who just happened to come upon the Ramsey household and carried this off.
COSSACK: Suspicions, theories and media speculations. more than a year has passed since the murder of JonBenet Ramsey, and we have little more than that. There's no trial, there's no suspect in custody, and there's no indictment from a grand jury. Lisa, you've been covering this case from the beginning. There have been allegations of serious police mistakes right from the beginning. List them. what are the alleged police mistakes?
RYCKMAN: Well Roger I think the first and foremost mistake was that they did not secure the crime scene. And that opinion as being their biggest mistake comes from a lot of experts in homicide investigations, not from myself, of course. And as a result of that failure to secure the crime scene, there were a lot of people tramping through the crime scene, possibly contaminating or eliminating evidence. Another mistake that they made subsequent to leaving this crime scene unsecured was to ask John Ramsey, JonBenet's father, to go search his house again, and they allowed him to do this alone that is without a police escort he took two friends with him. This is when he found his daughter's body in the basement room. Of course, his instinct as a father was to go to the child to pick her up, to take the duct tape off her mouth to see if she was still breathing, and then to carry her upstairs out of the dark basement and into the light of the upstairs house and into the arms of her family. Of course, I'm sure your experts can speak to this. All kinds of evidence may have been lost or contaminated to the point where it would make a conviction in this case it would jeopardize it quite possibly.
COSSACK: Lisa, in defense of the police, at that time when they allowed Mr. Ramsey to do all those things they were treating this case as a kidnap rather than a murder. Isn't that true?
RYCKMAN: Well, I think yes of course that was true. But I think that what most police at least outside police investigators say is that it doesn't matter. Kidnapping, murder hey, whatever this is, it's crime, and this was the scene and it should be secured.
COSSACK: Alright. David Schertler, former federal prosecutor, let me throw this case file in your lap now. Where do we go with this?
SCHERTLER: That's the $40,000 dollar question. I think Lisa is absolutely right. This whole you know you have an upstairs bedroom where the child is kidnapped from. You have a ransom note on the first floor. The whole house should have been a crime scene. It should have been roped off. Everybody should have gotten out of the house. And what you would've liked is to have gotten important scientific evidence that could have solved the crime or told you who the killer was. Without that in the case with no witnesses, you don't have a whole lot to go on. You don't have scientific evidence that links anybody with this crime. You have evidence that even though the statistics seem to support the notion that it came from someone inside the home, the evidence doesn't rule out the possibility that it was an outside intruder. Without scientific evidence, somebody talking to you about confessions or statements that the killer might have made to them or without an eyewitness, you have nothing at this point. And I assume that at this point the police have exhausted all those avenues of investigation. Right now, the only thing I see happening in this case to solve it, and it's an unlikely proposition, is that the killer either the killer himself or herself or somebody close to the killer who knows something about the crime would come forward out of consciousness of guilt and tell the police, look, I got to get this off my chest. Here is what happened, or here is what so and so told me about committing this murder. That to me is the only way that you're going to solve this crime.
COSSACK: Alright. now I'm going to come to you and you're the prosecutor in this case, and I just repeat back to you what you've told me. And I say look David we don't have a heck of a lot, but we believe that perhaps there may be some involvement by the family or perhaps a close friend of the family. But we don't have a whole heck of a lot. Do we arrest anybody in hopes that somebody gets behind bars and then cracks or gives up some information?
SCHERTLER: Absolutely not. I think it violates a prosecutor's ethics to do that without significant evidence to establish probable cause that a particular person did it. I don't see anything close to probable cause in this case. All I do see is a lot of speculation, a lot of theories about what might have happened. And some of them, like Clint's, are good theories that make a lot of sense, but there is absolutely no evidence to support it. Even if you said this happened, and it was committed by somebody inside the home; who was it? Was it the father? Was it was the mother? Was it the 11yo brother? We don't know.
COSSACK: Let's go back to Denver for a second. Dr. Krugman you've had the ability to analyze this autopsy report. Was there a time when during your analysis you saw indications that perhaps a taser gun or a stun gun was used on this young girl.
KRUGMAN: No, I didn't.
COSSACK: Was there any marks whatsoever?
KRUGMAN: There were other marks. There were other abrasions noted, and various things noted on the autopsy report. But I think you might need a pathologist to tell you for sure whether or not there was a stun gun. But that speculation has arisen over the last couple of weeks and seems to be filling the airwaves again, and is probably yet another indication of everyone's frustration with the inability to solve this case.
COSSACK: Alright. Clint, is this frustration? I mean, are they just pulling at straws now?
VAN ZANDT: I think right now Roger we're at the point where you start turning the rocks over. We've turned them over once; they got to turn them over a second time. But after a year you know we've got 22,000 known homicide in the U.S. every year only about 65 percent of those are solved. And the scary thing is as we're suggesting right now, without hard, cold forensic evidence that can link an offender to the victim the only think we have is someone raising their hands and says I got to tell you, I feel so bad about what I did. If we don't have that if they had forensic evidence, they would have indicted by now.
COSSACK: There's a new chief investigator in this case, Mark Beckner, who says he wants to reinterview the Ramseys. Why?
VAN ZANDT: He's the new captain of the ship Roger. I don't care what's been done before for the last 367 days it's a brand new investigation as far a he's concerned and he's saying, I want to talk to them. I want to get a feel for them. I want to see the evidence. I want the neighbors re-interviewed.
SCHERTLER: Let me add I think that in terms of investigative tactics that might be the one thing you want to do reinterview potential suspects. If you can get them in inconsistency if somebody may break and say OK let me tell you what happened, that's a real possibility. Now of course, the Ramseys are represented by counsel. I have the feeling that any interviews with the Ramseys are going to be very carefully monitored.
COSSACK: And let me just say even though my cohost Greta Van Susteren is not here today if she were here she would be saying if I were their lawyer I wouldn't let them talk to anybody.

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  theft from home?
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-27-2017, 05:42 PM - Forum: The House at 755 15th Street, Boulder, CO - No Replies

Quote: 1997-04-30: Patsy Ramsey Interrogation by Steve Thomas, Tom Trujillo

Patsy Ramsey Interrogation by Steve Thomas, Tom Trujillo
Also present, Pat Burke, Bryan Morgan, Pete Hoffstrom, Jon Foster
April 30, 1997 - Boulder, Colorado


ST: Did you ever report, previously I’ve been told that you have a video camcorder stolen from the home.

PR: Yeah.

ST: Was that ever reported to the police?

PR: I don’t remember whether it was or not. That was, I don’t know if it was. I mean, we discovered that about the time we were having carpet done and that’s when I came back from chemo and all that, and I don’t think it was, in the sale of things, you know, all that important. I must don’t remember. I remember we thought it was probably the carpet people, but you can’t prove it. I mean, we’ve lost so many cameras and…

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  The 1994 Christmas tour
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-27-2017, 05:21 PM - Forum: The House at 755 15th Street, Boulder, CO - No Replies

      Photo taken in second floor playroom

Quote: 1994-11-29: Boulder Historical Tour

The Denver Post
November 29, 1994

[snip]

BOULDER

Historic Boulder's 11th annual Historic Homes for the Holidays Tour starts Saturday. Seven homes in the University Hill neighborhood will be featured. Once a cow pasture on an isolated hill above Boulder, development began here in the 1890s, with lots selling for $ 9.22 each. Today, the neighborhood features a variety of architectural styles and mature trees.

Three of the homes were designed by Boulder's first architect and master-builder, Glen Huntington. The earliest is a finely crafted Tudor Revival at 715 12th St., built in 1923, with cathedral ceilings in the living and dining rooms. Owner Emily Lowrance calls her place "a Christmas house" because she used shades of red and green.

Huntington's 1930 design is a Jacobean/Elizabethan residence at 1500 Baseline Road, with steeply pitched roofline, gables with half-timbering, and a spacious living room.

The last of this group, a Colonial Revival, was built in 1940 at 701 Seventh St., with gabled dormers and paneled windows. A large addition was built by Cindy and Charles Jones, the owners for 12 years.


A 1927 Tudor house at 755 15th St. is being restored to its original elegance by Patsy and John Ramsey, who also are opening it to light and air. A spacious master suite with dormers has gone into the unused attic, and a sun porch became a dining room.

A 1931 Jacobean/Elizabethan home at 1427 Cascade Ave. is enlivened with mementos from the career and travels of former U.S. State Department diplomat Robert Goold and his wife Libby. A sturdy Foursquare home at 845 12th St. was built in 1908, and has recently been given a window-filled addition by new owners Arnold Jacobson and Victoria Johns.

The 1935 Colonial Revival at 770 12th St. also has been given an addition - a large sun room and master bath by owners Carol Francipane and Donald Lococo. They also modernized the kitchen from the studs out.

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  information
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-27-2017, 04:56 PM - Forum: Atlanta burglary - unrelated to murder - Replies (1)

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/478589/detail.html
02-20-2001
John Ramsey Locked Up During Botched Robbery
Atlanta Police Investigating At Scene

John Ramsey surprised a burglar in his Atlanta home Tuesday morning and fought with the man before the intruder fled, police said.

Ramsey called 911 at about 11:12 a.m., EST and said that he had scuffled with a 6-foot "tall black man" in dark clothing during a robbery at his house.

Ramsey told investigators that when he returned to his house from Home Depot around 11 a.m., he found a man going down the stairs with two suitcases in hand.

"There was a car in the driveway and the doors were all locked upstairs ... so I couldn't figure who was here, if anybody," Ramsey said during a brief interview with reporters.

When Ramsey asked the man what he was doing, the alleged intruder said that he was completing home renovations. Ramsey said that he did not believe him and when he attempted to call police, he was attacked.

Atlanta police Lt. Michael Fuller told reporters that Ramsey was choked, scratched and then subdued.

When asked by reporters after the incident if he was scared for his life, Ramsey said, "I got to thinking this may not be so good. As it got towards the end ... I got to thinking that this might not end up too good."

The alleged robber took Ramsey's wallet, forced Ramsey into a bathroom, tied the door from the outside, and continued to ransack the house, police said.

When Ramsey broke free from the bathroom, he apparently ran to his gun vault and grabbed a shotgun, but the intruder had already fled, an Atlanta newspaper reported.

Other than receiving several scratches on his face and bruises on his neck, Ramsey was unharmed.

Guns and other valuables were believed to have been stolen from the house.

"We didn't have a lot. It appeared that he took some clothes. He took my wallet in the fight, and a few other odds and ends," Ramsey said, as his wife Patsy, stood at his side.

Police continued Tuesday afternoon to search 4000 block of Paces Ferry Road for the intruder.

"So far, we have a vague description, even though Mr. Ramsey is certain that he will be able to identify this person if he sees him again," a police spokesman said at the scene. "We're in the process of getting things together. We will do a composite later today. Of course, we are looking at other some other evidence in the house that might lead to this person's identity."

Ramsey is expected be at the Atlanta police headquarters later Tuesday to help officers put together a composite and to take a look at police photos
.
"We can nail him. I think he picked the wrong house to burglarize," Ramsey said.

"He was about 6 foot 1, probably 30 years old, plus or minus, medium-brown skin, short hair, trim, well-dressed. (He) drove a light-gray bronze-colored like a Chevy Cavalier-kind of car. (He) was well-spoken," Ramsey added.

Patsy Ramsey returned to their home from Bible study at about one hour after the alleged robbery occurred.

The Ramseys have been under suspicion since their 6-year-old daughter JonBenet was found beaten and strangled in their Boulder, Colo., home on December 26, 1996.

The couple insist that they're innocent and claim that an intruder is responsible. A year-long probe into the murder of the child beauty queen led to no indictment and no arrests.

The Ramseys moved to their two-story Mediterranean-style Atlanta home, located in the suburb of Vinings, Ga., after the slaying.

John Ramsey told police Tuesday morning that he is unsure whether the alleged robber knew the identity of the homeowners. Police said that do not believe that the murder of JonBenet Ramsey and Tuesday's robbery was connected.


Quote:2001-02-20: Ramsey Atlanta House Robbery Missing Items

Items missings:

1. A Compac Lap Top computer, with power adapter pulled out of the wall taken from second floor office area.

2. Two duffel bags, one kelly green canvas with "Nashville Jet" embodied on the side. The other was a black leather/vinyl gym bag that said "Capitol City Club" on the side. The green bag was stuffed full and the black bag was about half full.

3. Jewelry from Patsy's Jewelry box was gone.

4. One small ring

5. One wedding "style" ring, flat wide band with a crest on top.

6. Burglar looked at the shot guns John Ramsey had but he didn't take any.

7. Burglar opened a gun safe located in Mr. Ramsey's dressing room closet. Mr. Ramsey said the safe was not locked.

8. A gray metal box containing personal papers and a white cardboard box containing white sheets of paper with the inscription in pink cursive "JonBenet" was also on the floor in front of the safe.

9. A 12 gauge double barrel Parker shotgun, which was broken down in a leather carrying case, was also on the floor

10. Wallet described as alligator black shiny contained John Ramsey's Georgia driver's license, Blockbuster Video card, two VISA cards, one from Merrill Lynch, and an American Express and Rich's credit card plus $300 to $400 cash in wallet.

11. John Ramsey also said he was missing papers, namely aircraft logs that were in one of the bags that the suspect carried out.







Quote:2001-02-21: Statement of John Ramsey to Atlanta Police Department



Statement of John Ramsey

On 2-20-01 Probably about 10:45 AM I came home frome a quick trip to Home Depot and there was a car in my driveway. It was a bronze gray Chevy or Ford, it was an American car from the 1980's. I went in the garage door, it was locked. I unlocked it and went in. I looked in the car from a distance and did not see anybody in the car. Checked the front door of the house, it was locked. So I was not sure who are where this person was that drove the car.

Heard steps coming down from the second floor and went into the front entry hall and met a man in the hall who had just come down from the second floor. He was probably 6'1, 30 years old or there abouts, black male, medium brown skin, stocky build, not heavy, well dressed, composed and he was carrying two bags that I recognized as mine. I asked him who he was, he said he was a workman. I said "How did you get in". He said the door was unlocked. I said what are you doing with the bags. He said those are my tools. He asked who I was. I told him I owned the place.

I tried to take one of the bags form him. He would not release it. I told him I was going to call the police. I turned around to go to the phone. He grabbed me from behind around the neck. He said "Are you going to let me go". We scuffled for four to five minutes. I was trying to get free and get out of the front door, because we were in front of the house. I did get the door opened, but was unable to break free to get out.

At that point I realized that I needed to let him have his way so that he would leave. During the struggle, the socks that he was wearing on his hands, came off, but he was quick to put them back on. He put my arm behind my back, grabbed my collar and pushed me into the first floor bath and told me he would not hurt me if I stayed in there.

He tied the door closed with one of my coats which was lying near by. He questioned me about when my wife was coming back. Asked me where there was more money and jewelry in the house. I told him there was none. He asked me that a couple more times. During the struggle he had taken my wallet. I thought I heard the front door open quietly, and I waited a minute, called out to him and got no response so I





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quickly got out of the bathroom and called 911. I had gone upstairs and got a shot gun because I was not sure where the guy was.

Question and Answer session conducted by Det. Tarvares:

Q: Approximately how long were you at the Home Depot?
A: Probably thirty minutes.

Q: Was the vehicle parked in your drive way, wa it bronze or gray?
A: I would say it was kind of a dirty white gray. Kind of silver gray. It had a emblem that was flat on the grill. It had gray cloth interior. When I looked to see who was in the car, I notied that.

Q: From the time you saw the suspect, approximately how long you think he was in your home?
A: About fifteen minutes.

Q: Do you have anything that you want to add to this statement?
A: He was dressed casual, but neat. Dark slacks, dark tennis shoes I think. He had a jacket on, it was dark brown or black. He had a knit golf shirt on which had horitzonal green. Close hair cut. He looked well groom. He was very composed, well spoken.

Q: After the robbery, what did you notice missing?
A. A Compac Lap Top computer, with power adapter pulled out of the wall. Two duffel bags, one kelly geen canvas with Nashville Jet embodied on the side. The other was a black leather/vinyle gym bag that said Capitol City Club on the side. The green bag was stuffed full and the black bag was about half full. Patsy's





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Jewelry was gone out of the jewelry box. It was mostly costume jewelry. A small gold ring, wedding style ring, flat wide band with a crest on the top. He looked at the shot guns that I had, but did not take any.

Q: Did the suspect have a weapon, or did he lead you to believe he had a weapon?
A: I did not see a weapon, nor did he say that he had one.

Q: Did the suspect speak with an accent?
A: It was noticeable articulate and calm.

End of statement.... 9:45 HR


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NATIONAL EXAMINER
March 13, 2001
COVER HEADLINE: DID JONBENET'S DAD FAKE NEW BREAK-IN?
His Story is Full of Holes! -- Insider says

STORY HEADLINE: John Ramsey Story Full of Holes -- says insider DID JONBENET'S DAD FAKE LATEST BREAK-IN?......just like little beauty's murder scene

STORY:

By Art Dworken

John Ramsey faked the recent break-in at his Atlanta house, charges an insider close to the still-unsolved murder of the Ramseys' 6-year-old daughter JonBenet.

Ramsey claims he was attacked and beaten by a burglar he surprised in his Atlanta home.

"But when you look at the holes in the story about this alleged break-in, it looks like it was staged in the same way the murder of JonBenet appears to have been staged to mislead cops toward an intruder," says the insider.

"This break-in never really happened."

Ironically, the incident occurred just days after the Ramseys learned they'll have to testify under oath about their daughter's 1996 murder as part of a $50 million defamation lawsuit filed against them by a Boulder, Colo., detective.

The trial will take place in Atlanta, the jurors will be from Atlanta -- and publicity about the break-in will almost certainly affect their perception of the Ramseys, says the insider.

"The timing of this latest 'break-in' is exquisite," the insider says. "While Lin Wood, the Ramseys' lawyer, is appearing on the Today show, John claims he's being attacked in his home hundreds of miles away almost at the same time.

"Now John can argue that: See, once again he's been victimized by an intruder. But as far as we know, he's the only witness to this recent break-in and assault, which is one reason I suspect this was just more spin-doctoring to draw sympathy to him and his wife and deflect attention from the truth.

"Even an arrest doesn't eliminate suspicion that this was a set-up."

According to the insider, the break-in story is full of holes:

** In one version he was forced inside a closet and the door then blocked with a grandfather clock. But another report has him being forced into a bathroom and tied in from the outside. It's hard to understand how a grandfather clock becomes confused with a rope.

** Ramsey said he was punched in the face repeatedly by a 6-foot-tall, 200-pound black male, yet there did not appear to be a cut or visible bruise on his face. And police spokeswoman Marion Hills tells THE EXAMINER: "My understanding is that Mr. Ramsey wasn't hurt.

"There was certainly no reference to any injuries sustained by Mr. Ramsey in our report."

** Ramsey told police he'd gone out on a 20-minute errand and returned around noon. "That's a very small window of opportunity for a stranger to find his way inside the house and go from room to room looking for valuable," says the insider.

** "The Ramseys' home is located in one of Atlanta's most well-to-do areas, in which all the homes have very good security systems, the insider explains. "In addition, there's a Neighborhood Watch program, all of which makes it highly unlikely that an intruder could sit on the street casing the joint in a 'brownish or gray Chevy Malibu' -- a description Ramsey gave the cops of the suspected getaway car -- without being detected."

** There were supposedly guns in a vault, yet the intruder failed to steal a shotgun -- a hot-ticket item that could bring big bucks on the street.

Ramsey's attorney denies his client staged the burglary. "When you review the investigative records, you will be impressed with the professional investigation conducted by the Atlanta Police Department," attorney Lin Wood tells The EXAMINER

But this isn't the first time the Ramseys have said they were the victims of an intruder.

"This is, in fact, the third break-in claimed by the Ramseys," says the insider. "There was the one December 26, 1996 -- the night of JonBenet's murder -- a second incident is described in their book The Death of Innocence and now this alleged third encounter with a burglar.

"This is just one more reason why I suspect John Ramsey fabricated this highly suspicious situation."


Quote:FROM 2001-03-12: REPORT: Special Agent Peter W. McFarlane (FBI) of the GBI-FBI Crime Scene Specialist Unit


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On Tuesday, February 20, 2001, at 11:40 AM, Special Agent Peter W. McFarlane (FBI) of the GBI-FBI Crime Scene Specialist Unit recieved a request from Major Ted Hall, commander of the Personals Crimes Unites, Atlanta Police Department, to assist in the processing of a crime scene at 4070 Paces Ferry Road NW, Atlanta, GA, the residence of John and Patsy Ramsey.

Agent McFarlane arrived on scene at 12:44 PM and met with Detective Frank Tavarez and Sgt. Archie Ezell of the Atlanta PD Robbery Squad.

They advised that Mr. Ramsey's house was reportedly burglarized and he confronted the burglar, who attacked him. Mr. Ramsey was subsequently locked in a bathroom by this individual described as a black male.

Mr. Ramsey advised the suspect made off with two carrying bags, (1) an Irish green duffel bag with words "Nashville Jet" and (2) a black duffel bag with the words "Capitol City Club on the side.

Mr. Ramsey indicated that the suspect was coming down the stairway from the second floor when he confronted him carrying these bags. He asked him who he was and he indicated that he was a workman. Mr. Ramsey also asked him what he was doing with the bags, knowing that these bags and possible contents belonged to Mr. Ramsey.

Mr. Ramsey also indicated that the suspect was wearing socks as gloves, either dark blue or black. He advised that at that point he ended up in a confrontation and struggle with this individual, who subsequently locked him in the bathroom on the first floor adjacent to a sitting room adjacent to the kitchen. The door was held closed with





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Mr. Ramsey's brown leather jacket, which was tied to the grandfather clock support post next to the bathroom door.

Mr. Ramsey indicated that upon searching the house he found that his Compaq lap top computer and power source had been taken from a second floor office area.

He further indicated when he came into the house, which was through the kitchen door, he noted a tan colored Chevrolet Cavalier parked in the driveway which was back in, which he suspected belonged to the perpetrator.

Agent McFarlane surveyed the scene and called for assistance from ASAC David T. Mitchell (GBI) and Agent Carol Ann Johnson (GBI) also of the GBI-FBI Crime Scene Specialist Unit.

It is noted that the house faces north onto Paces Ferry Road but the entrance is from a side driveway from River Forest Drive on the east side of this house.

The house is a two-story brick house with full basement.

Upon surveying this scene it was evident that the suspect had been in the house for a period of time. It is noted that Mr. Ramsey indicted that he had left the house unattended and had gone to the Home Depot store to shop and subsequently returned cathing the intruder.

The suspect entered the house through the rear basement door in the lower west side of the house. He used a shovel to pry the door open, which was left behind.

Various shoe impressions were left in the sand at this entrance as well as the shovel.





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ASAC Mitchel processed these impressions, making appropriate Hydrocal casts.

The suspect opened various drawers to chests and dressers on the first floor and second floor bedroom areas.

He also opened a gun safe located in Mr. Ramsey's dressing room/clothes closet area. According to Mr. Ramsey, the safe was not locked.

A gray metal box containing personal papers and a white cardboard box containing white sheets of paper with the inscription in pink cursive "JonBenet" was also on the floor in front of the safe.

A 12 gauge double barrel Parker shotgun, which was broken down in a leather carrying case, was also on the floor.

Agent McFarlane initially photographed the injuries to Mr. Ramsey's face, head and neck areas.

Upon taking these photographs Mr. Ramsey indicated to Agent McFarlane that he fought with the intruder and was forced in the bathroom adjacent to the sitting area on the first floor next to the kitchen.

The door had been tied shut with Mr. Ramsey's coat and a towel tied to the grandfather clock support post to the outside door handle to the bathroom. A multi-Allen wrench tool was used to secure the coat sleeve to the grandfather clock post.

Mr. Ramsey advised he did not want to get injured any further by this individual so he did not come out of the bathroom until he felt the intruder had left.





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Mr. Ramsey further indicated to Agent McFarlane and Atlanta detectives that his wallet which was described as an alligator black shiny wallet containing his Georgia driver's license, Blockbuster Video card along with two VISA cards, one from Merrill Lynch, and an American Express and Rich's credit cards were in the wallet.

He also indicated that he was missing papers, namely aircraft logs from his residence and they were in one of the bags, which the suspect was carrying out. He also indicated that he was missing $300-$400 cash which was in his wallet.

Agent McFarlane photographed the exterior and interior of this house as well as the bedroom and study areas and the areas where the perpetrator opened the drawers to the various chests and closets. These areas and drawers were processed for latent fingerprints by Agent Johnson with the use of Redwop powder and an alternate light source known as a Luma-Lite, all with negative results.

No fingerprints of value were recovered from these drawers.

Agent McFarlane processed the safe door and glass on the various closet doors in Mr. Ramsey's dressing area, recovering various latent lifts of unknown value.

Agent McFarlane collected the gray metal box and white cardboard box to be processed later for latent fingerprints at the GBI Crime Lab.

Agent McFarlane also photographed the broken entrance door to the basement area. The lock had been bent and forced open and the keeper and doorjamb had been broken.

The basement door was processed for latent fingerprints, inside and out.





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Photographs with black and white film were used to photograph latent fingerprints developed on the outside of this door, above the lock, 48 1/2" from the door and two inches from the edge of the door.

It is also noted ASAC Mitchell located tire impressions at the left front (north side) of the entrance to the driveway, whereby casts were made.

Also a Home Depot receipt was recovered on the floor in front of the bathroom where Mr. Ramsey was held. It read February 20, 01, 10:42 AM for the purchase of door hinges.

All items of evidence and casts recovered at this scene were so noted on GBI Receipt for Property Sheets #E-202718 and E-202717, respectfully.

Agent McFarlene, along with ASAC Mitchell and Agent Johnson, departed this scene at 9:00 PM.

ID DATA: Victim: John Ramsey, W/M
DOB: (blacked out)

Special Agent Peter W. McFarlane: 03/09/01
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  MY evidence taken by police -
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-27-2017, 03:31 PM - Forum: Press Releases /Official statements - No Replies

After a news story stated that I had evidence, attempted to get it properly checked and the police had refused to have it tested, I got a call from Chief Beckner saying he WOULD have it tested.  This story followed.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/lo...75,00.html
Tipster provides possible DNA evidence in Ramsey case
By Owen S. Good, News Staff Writer
August 17, 2001

BOULDER -- Police Chief Mark Beckner has asked a state lab to test possible DNA evidence, given to him by an Internet tipster, with genetic traces found in the JonBenet Ramsey murder investigation.

The Colorado Bureau of Investigation also will examine DNA evidence from a former suspect in an unsolved Arapahoe County murder for possible links to the Ramsey case.

Beckner, confirming the testing, said so little is known about the source of the DNA that he can't say if it will produce a meaningful lead.

"I don't have enough information on where it came from to even tell you whether it's worth a look," Beckner said Wednesday. "We're doing it just to cover all our bases, and if something pans out, super, great."

It is at least a new lead in a five-year investigation that has focused on the girl's parents, John and Patsy Ramsey, as suspects in her death. The case has appeared to grind down since a grand jury disbanded without an indictment in 1999.

While police figures say more than 100 suspects have been considered, and people continue to be interviewed, DNA testing has "dwindled down" lately, Beckner said. The number of interviews stood at 590 in June 1998 and increased to "roughly 600" in the past three years, according to city press releases.

While the chief is taking evidence of unknown origin and testing it without the name of a possible suspect in mind, he said it is not an endorsement of a so-called "intruder theory." It still examines the possibility that a stranger murdered JonBenet, 6, whose body was found Dec. 26, 1996.

"I wouldn't characterize it as moving in any direction other than investigating the crime and trying to answer unanswered questions," Beckner said. "And wherever it leads us, it leads us."

]The tipster, who goes by the Internet name Jameson in maintaining a Ramsey case Web site, said the sample is a "personal belonging" of a man who lived in the Boulder area at the time of the murder. It contains hair and bodily fluid traces, she said, and was mailed to her eight months ago by "someone intimate" with the man, who suspected his involvement.

Jameson wanted written assurances from Beckner that he would test the item before she turned it over, but Beckner had been reluctant to give them, she said. She said he verbally agreed last month.

"I can tell you that the person has been talked about in Boulder as a suspect," she said, although she withheld that name from the police.[/font][/size]
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Unknown male DNA was found underneath JonBenet's fingernails and in her panties. The Ramseys are not the source.

"I really do think JonBenet got a piece of her killer, and he left something behind," said Lou Smit, whom Beckner has criticized for taking his intruder theory public. "Some day, that is going to catch him."

Smit said he is "really encouraged" Beckner is doing the DNA testing. "I hope that they do more," he said. "It must be worth something or they wouldn't test it."

Beckner characterized the DNA comparison as part of ongoing laboratory tests. "We are still doing DNA tests, and we are doing DNA tests on some things that have been submitted," he said.

Beckner could not say how many other tests have been performed this year. "It's dwindled down significantly," he said. "There aren't many we ask for now."


Sheriffs' detectives in Arapahoe County received a similar DNA tip from Jameson earlier this year, according to Detective Rick Fahlstedt. Testing showed enough of a link that the person was brought in and gave a voluntary sample, which eliminated that person as a suspect, he said.

Jameson said the person also lived in the Boulder area at the time of the Ramsey murder. She also gave the person's name to Beckner. The chief thinks the CBI may have already examined it for Ramsey links.


"Any DNA that's tested by CBI is compared against their entire database," Beckner said. "It's basically an automatic kind of thing."

Atlanta attorney L. Lin Wood, who is representing the Ramseys in three civil lawsuits, said he was "slightly" encouraged by the news.

"I'd be more encouraged if I saw the police taking aggressive actions to solicit new tips and new leads, to take this case off the shelf and genuinely go back and revisit it start to finish," he said.

Contact Owen S. Good at (303) 442-8729 or goodo@RockyMountainNews.com.

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  Burke's room
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-27-2017, 02:28 PM - Forum: Rooms - No Replies

   

Burke's bedroom was on the second floor.  Immediately outside his bedroom door was the staircase leading to the third floor and another to the front hall.  Melinda's room would have been to the left, opposite the stair and his bathroom.   Straight ahead was a hall leading to the playroom and beyond that was the addition to the house where JonBenet had her bedroom.

Burke's room was wallpapered with World War I fighter planes, and a large wooden propeller hung over the small windows. Two TV sets and a VCR shared a bookcase with a fish tank. His room was not where Disney movies were kept, he enjoyed learning programs such as 'Practicing Landing" and "First few Hours of Voyage".  He also had a computer in his room but no internet access as far as I know.

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  The butler door
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-27-2017, 02:19 PM - Forum: The House at 755 15th Street, Boulder, CO - No Replies

   


The rather low number on the photo indicates it was taken in the earlier morning hours on December 26th


2000 March 18 - John and Patsy Ramsey book, "Death of Innocence"


DOI (HB) Page 270:

"The investigators spent a great deal of time talking with me about a large diagram of the house on the wall behind me. I later learned that they also used the same diagram with Patsy. I was shocked to see that they had found the butler kitchen door, which led to the outside, open. This was reported by one of our friends when he arrived shortly after six in the morning. I'd never even noticed that open door as we frantically rushed around making phone calls, and yet there on the police diagram of our home was the note: "Door found open."

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